A Discordian going by the name "Baron Von Hoopla" made a comment on my last blog this morning, here it is. reprinted in the harsh sunlight:
"I would just like to mention that according to the First Edition of the Principia Discordia you perfectly embody the ideals of the 'Order Of Eris', and are hereby granted a position in Ichabod College . . . welcome to the Discordian Society, CS."
It amused me to no end, knowing very well the old adage: 'If you can't beat them, join them' - I suppose it also works in the reverse [if you can't beat them, recruit them], BUT but, something about this comment thrilled me even more.
Up until then I hadn't been aware that there were several versions of the Discordian Satanic Bible "The Principia Discordia", but when the Baron mentioned the First Edition I decided to take a look at it, and stumbled across something which almost made me choke from glee. On page A11 one of the creators of Discordianism ["LORD OMAR KHAYYAM RAVENHURST"] interjects this statement, which spells out the entire original concept of the Discordian Society:
"The purpose of The Discordian Society is to provide false, comforting answers to questions of this sort; to give mystical reasons for the disorder around us; to promote unworkable principles of discord--in short, to provide the world with a workshop for the insane, thus keeping them out of mischief as Presidents, Ambassador[s], Priests, Ministers, and other Dictators."
So, there it is, in plain English: it was originally a complete scam, intended to keep losers and weirdos occupied. Actually, a rather valiant attempt, but sadly it has been taken seriously and twisted over the intervening decades into something quite sinister.
So, modern Discordians: Checkmate.
no, i am NOT a discordian in disguise: this forum is an ignored warning to the world: some day, though it is not my wish, i will be forced to say I TOLD YOU SO!
Thursday, April 19, 2007
Tuesday, April 17, 2007
Getting To Them
FOUND THIS: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11918.0
The suspects the Discordians have come up with (concerning my identity) are:
-Laz
-Baron Von Hoopla
-Eric
-Hot Carl
-Cowass
-Bhode
-ECH
...then the forum thread degenerates into petty in-fighting, which Discordians seem to consider foreplay, before East Coast Hustle (presumably from the list) posts this: "I thought about jacking this thread back to its original topic, but then I decided that I didn't want to give even the slightest bit of validation to whatever tard is responsible for the Concordia Movement."
This 'tard' is crying, believe me. It does hurt my ego to know that a group of scummy cultists don't think I'm 'cool' enough for them.
I thought that was it, but then found yet ANOTHER thread concerned solely with myself
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11908.0
Here are some of the choice comments directed at me:
L.M.N.O.: "Anybody want to toss the Golden Sphere of Possibility their way?"
Mangrove: "Anybody want to toss the Golden Hand Grenade of Go Fuck Yourself their way? f1x."
Synaptyx: "TEHMANG 222000000 points - concordiamovement nil poi."
Lysergic: "Just a thought... the dude *may* have a point. BIP does sorta come off as pretty depressing. Not that it doesn't sorta make sense, but yeah... come on, the name already suggests it's not a "fun" read."
Rev. What's-His-Name: "Sure, it's depressing to someone who totally misses the point."
Cain: "I'm 99% certain of who it is too, and I like giving them the exposure they deserve."
The Good Reverend Roger: "Which disgruntled n00b was this?"
Cain: "Its one of our own, posing as a passably intelligent (but not too smart) critic."
Jenne: "I still think any movement needs its detractors. Keeps the followers and those with the initiative on their toes. And you can always choose which critiques to discard and take up."
Cain: "Of course, it could be Laz, but the arguments on the page are all so painfully flawed, yet well written and show some thought. Which I don't think he can do."
...this thread then degenerates into boring drivel as well. I was surprised to see some actual rational thought from some of the Discordians (Lysergic, Jenne) so I'm forced to assume that they are new to the movement. This Cain fellow amuses me, since he seems so certain about my identity, as if only Discordians exist in reality . . . at least he's intelligent enough to recognize well-written work when it is presented to him.
I will keep close watch on this online forum and report any more knee-quaking.
The suspects the Discordians have come up with (concerning my identity) are:
-Laz
-Baron Von Hoopla
-Eric
-Hot Carl
-Cowass
-Bhode
-ECH
...then the forum thread degenerates into petty in-fighting, which Discordians seem to consider foreplay, before East Coast Hustle (presumably from the list) posts this: "I thought about jacking this thread back to its original topic, but then I decided that I didn't want to give even the slightest bit of validation to whatever tard is responsible for the Concordia Movement."
This 'tard' is crying, believe me. It does hurt my ego to know that a group of scummy cultists don't think I'm 'cool' enough for them.
I thought that was it, but then found yet ANOTHER thread concerned solely with myself
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11908.0
Here are some of the choice comments directed at me:
L.M.N.O.: "Anybody want to toss the Golden Sphere of Possibility their way?"
Mangrove: "Anybody want to toss the Golden Hand Grenade of Go Fuck Yourself their way? f1x."
Synaptyx: "TEHMANG 222000000 points - concordiamovement nil poi."
Lysergic: "Just a thought... the dude *may* have a point. BIP does sorta come off as pretty depressing. Not that it doesn't sorta make sense, but yeah... come on, the name already suggests it's not a "fun" read."
Rev. What's-His-Name: "Sure, it's depressing to someone who totally misses the point."
Cain: "I'm 99% certain of who it is too, and I like giving them the exposure they deserve."
The Good Reverend Roger: "Which disgruntled n00b was this?"
Cain: "Its one of our own, posing as a passably intelligent (but not too smart) critic."
Jenne: "I still think any movement needs its detractors. Keeps the followers and those with the initiative on their toes. And you can always choose which critiques to discard and take up."
Cain: "Of course, it could be Laz, but the arguments on the page are all so painfully flawed, yet well written and show some thought. Which I don't think he can do."
...this thread then degenerates into boring drivel as well. I was surprised to see some actual rational thought from some of the Discordians (Lysergic, Jenne) so I'm forced to assume that they are new to the movement. This Cain fellow amuses me, since he seems so certain about my identity, as if only Discordians exist in reality . . . at least he's intelligent enough to recognize well-written work when it is presented to him.
I will keep close watch on this online forum and report any more knee-quaking.
Tuesday, April 10, 2007
"Operation Mindf*ck"
Operation Mindfuck is one of the most prominent features of Discordianism; it is the systemized abuse of fellow men and women hidden under the guise of "expanding minds". If your son or daughter is caught doing something WRONG, and then tries to weasle out of facing the consequences under the pretense of promoting Operation Mindfuck, do NOT, under any circumstance, think that this is "simply" teenage rebellion. This is the first sign of serious anti-social behavior.
This is how Wikipedia defines Operation Mindfuck: "O.M. is most often manifested as a decentralized campaign of civil disobedience, activism, art movements (especially performance art and guerilla art), culture jamming, graffiti and other vandalism, practical jokes, hoaxes, reality hacking, chaos magic, trolling and anything else that is believed to bring about social change through disrupting paradigms and thus forcing the victim to question the parameters of one's reality tunnel, the end result intending to be a society in which the creative aspects of both order and chaos are embraced."
Let's look again at just some of the ideas listed above:
-civil disobedience
-activism
-graffiti
-vandalism
-hoaxes
-chaos magic
-trolling
Isn't that a "heart-warming" list of extra-curricular activities any kid would want to be involved in? I think not. The very fact that Discordianism encourages these behaviors should be the only proof anyone needs to see what a truly nauseating and smarmy concept Discordianism truly is. Kids and Teens and Tweens are naturally inclined to act out now and then, it is -after all- how one tests the limits of what society will endure, and what it will not . . . Discordianism noticed this and decided to pounce on natural ideas to pervert and corrupt the youth, so that they can mould them into the extremists and terrorists they desire for their army.
If you don't think manipulation is involved with these fiends, let me draw your attention more closely to the last sentence of that Wiki definition: "believed to bring about social change through DISRUPTING paradigms and thus FORCING the victim to question the parameters of ONE's REALITY TUNNEL, the end result intending to be a SOCIETY in which the creative aspects of both order and CHAOS are EMBRACED." [emphasis mine]
Forcing the victim to question the parameters of one's "reality tunnel"? Interesting concept. FORCING. Consider that term. Have the Discordians ever considered changing their own "reality tunnels"? I guess that concept never occurred to them. How could it? Their idea is perfect.
And, do NOT, under any circumstance fail to notice their intention of forcing society to conform to their viewpoints. This is paramount folks.
This is how Wikipedia defines Operation Mindfuck: "O.M. is most often manifested as a decentralized campaign of civil disobedience, activism, art movements (especially performance art and guerilla art), culture jamming, graffiti and other vandalism, practical jokes, hoaxes, reality hacking, chaos magic, trolling and anything else that is believed to bring about social change through disrupting paradigms and thus forcing the victim to question the parameters of one's reality tunnel, the end result intending to be a society in which the creative aspects of both order and chaos are embraced."
Let's look again at just some of the ideas listed above:
-civil disobedience
-activism
-graffiti
-vandalism
-hoaxes
-chaos magic
-trolling
Isn't that a "heart-warming" list of extra-curricular activities any kid would want to be involved in? I think not. The very fact that Discordianism encourages these behaviors should be the only proof anyone needs to see what a truly nauseating and smarmy concept Discordianism truly is. Kids and Teens and Tweens are naturally inclined to act out now and then, it is -after all- how one tests the limits of what society will endure, and what it will not . . . Discordianism noticed this and decided to pounce on natural ideas to pervert and corrupt the youth, so that they can mould them into the extremists and terrorists they desire for their army.
If you don't think manipulation is involved with these fiends, let me draw your attention more closely to the last sentence of that Wiki definition: "believed to bring about social change through DISRUPTING paradigms and thus FORCING the victim to question the parameters of ONE's REALITY TUNNEL, the end result intending to be a SOCIETY in which the creative aspects of both order and CHAOS are EMBRACED." [emphasis mine]
Forcing the victim to question the parameters of one's "reality tunnel"? Interesting concept. FORCING. Consider that term. Have the Discordians ever considered changing their own "reality tunnels"? I guess that concept never occurred to them. How could it? Their idea is perfect.
And, do NOT, under any circumstance fail to notice their intention of forcing society to conform to their viewpoints. This is paramount folks.
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